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An Irrevocable Trust vs. an A/B Trust: Pros and Cons
The A/B Trust used to be one of the most popular estate planning products in a lawyer’s arsenal. Here’s how it previously worked: The first spouse dies and that spouse’s assets are placed into a trust using the first spouse’s estate tax exemption. The second spouse dies and their assets go to the children using the second spouse’s estate tax exemption. The assets in the first spouse’s trust then are passed to the children, thereby using both spouses estate tax exemption.
After years of this, the estate tax code was re-written combining the spouse’s exemptions making the A/B trust obsolete for this purpose. Some lawyers continue to use this method of estate planning even though it does some things poorly and others not at all. Although an A/B trust will pass the assets to the beneficiaries as good as other products, it has problems in the areas of privacy, asset protection, and Medicaid planning.
First, an A/B method of estate planning offers absolutely NO asset protection benefits while both spouses are alive and minimal protection after one spouse passes. In fact, if an attorney for a lawsuit checks a person who created an A/B trust for assets, they will see that they still own the assets in their name. While both spouses are alive, depending on how the lawyer drew up the estate plan, either each spouse has their assets in their own name with a will including a testamentary trust (a trust that doesn’t exist until death) or they each have their own revocable trust with half the marital assets.The A/B Trust used to be one of the most popular estate planning products in a lawyer’s arsenal. Here’s how it previously worked: The first spouse dies and that spouse’s assets are placed into a trust using the first spouse’s estate tax exemption. The second spouse dies and their assets go to the children using the second spouse’s estate tax exemption. The assets in the first spouse’s trust then are passed to the children, thereby using both spouses estate tax exemption.
Having assets in one’s own name or assets in a revocable trust doesn’t help for asset protection. In both scenarios, one has access to the assets, which means that one’s creditors can attach these assets as well as courts in the event of a lawsuit. After one spouse passes, the will creates an irrevocable trust or, alternatively, the revocable trust becomes irrevocable. The deceased spouse’s assets are now in an irrevocable trust and protected from creditors and the courts, but chances are that the prime years to get sued or go in debt happened a long time ago. Why not have an irrevocable trust in the first place?The A/B Trust used to be one of the most popular estate planning products in a lawyer’s arsenal. Here’s how it previously worked: The first spouse dies and that spouse’s assets are placed into a trust using the first spouse’s estate tax exemption. The second spouse dies and their assets go to the children using the second spouse’s estate tax exemption. The assets in the first spouse’s trust then are passed to the children, thereby using both spouses estate tax exemption.
An A/B trust also offers little protection from a Medicaid spend-down. Again, like above, while the spouses are alive, they will be subject to a Medicaid spend-down in order to qualify for long-term care benefits. The community spouse can keep a predetermined amount, but the rest will be spent down to a minimal amount ($1,500-2,000, depending on the state). Also, again, once one spouse dies, those assets are protected from the spend-down, but the other half of the assets are subject to the other spouses long-term care bills. An irrevocable trust would protect 100% of all of the assets.The A/B Trust used to be one of the most popular estate planning products in a lawyer’s arsenal. Here’s how it previously worked: The first spouse dies and that spouse’s assets are placed into a trust using the first spouse’s estate tax exemption. The second spouse dies and their assets go to the children using the second spouse’s estate tax exemption. The assets in the first spouse’s trust then are passed to the children, thereby using both spouses estate tax exemption.
An A/B trust doesn’t really do anything well. Instead of protecting half of the assets, a good irrevocable trust can protect all of the assets. The irrevocable trust takes all of the assets out of both spouse’s names so that they don’t own them anymore. If they don’t have title, the assets aren’t counted by Medicaid, aren’t included in the calculation for the estate tax, and cannot be found in a public record as being owned by you, thus they can’t be taken by creditors in the event of a lawsuit. In fact, if an attorney for a prospective lawsuit checks a person who created an irrevocable trust to hold assets, they won’t see any assets in your name and the lawyer probably won’t be interested in taking the case against you on a contingency basis. The lawsuit is stopped before it starts. There is a downside of an irrevocable trust; the persons creating it don’t have ownership of the assets past what they put in the trust documents. So, for the scared, there is the A/B trust and for the protected, the Ultra Trust irrevocable trust.The A/B Trust used to be one of the most popular estate planning products in a lawyer’s arsenal. Here’s how it previously worked: The first spouse dies and that spouse’s assets are placed into a trust using the first spouse’s estate tax exemption. The second spouse dies and their assets go to the children using the second spouse’s estate tax exemption. The assets in the first spouse’s trust then are passed to the children, thereby using both spouses estate tax exemption.
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Registered users of the Site might be asked for personal information such as email addresses, full name or other contact information at the time of registration. We may use this information to prepare an email list that will not be sold or given to third parties. Registered users of the Site will be given the option on registration of receiving newsletters, informational material or promotional material periodically from us.
4. Responding to Emailed Inquiries
We will use the return email address to answer or respond to inquiries sent to us from Visitors. We will not use the return email address for any purpose other than as stated in this privacy policy, nor will we share or sell it to a third party. Email addresses used in inquiries will not be added to our email list unless we are specifically requested by the Visitor in writing to do so.
5. Frequency of Newsletters via Email
We endeavor to send MyUltraTrust newsletters to registered Visitors according to a predetermined sequence linked to a Visitor’s confirmation at the Site to opt in to receive them. The following is the sequence we try to maintain:
Periodically, you may receive an additional newsletter from us containing updates, news or information that we believe might be important to you and your family.
6. Reporting Spam or Other Email Abuses
If you believe you are the victim of abusive, unwanted or malicious emails that have originated from our Site, please send us a copy of the email in question along with the message header. We will endeavor to investigate your concerns and, if the problem arose within out Site, we will attempt to resolve the issue.
7. Information We Obtain from Customer Surveys
Periodically, we might ask you to participate in a customer survey. Participation is voluntary, but we encourage you to participate as they help us to improve the products and services we offer to our clients. Personal information we obtain through these surveys is confidential.
Information we obtain from the surveys that is not in the category of personal identifying information will be used by us in the development of services, products and delivery system improvements. Such non-identifying personal information might be shared by third parties providers.
8. Use of Cookies at Our Site
We use cookies in the collection, storage and tracking of information for statistical purposes. Information might be gathered about Site use to assist us in improving content or use of the Site. We may also use cookies to collect statistical, but not personal identifying information, about Visitors. The information we gather assists us in making improvements to the Site by telling us which content is the most popular and which products and services are of the most interest to Visitors.
Because our Site asks Visitors to register in order to gain access, we ask Visitors to create passwords for access purposes. Through the use of cookies, we are able to authenticate, recognize and store user information to facilitate Visitor navigation through the Site and customize content based upon the specific interest of a particular Visitor. Browser settings permit Visitors to disable cookies, but doing so might compromise some of the information or services available to you.
Our Site might use GIF files to assist us in managing advertising and marketing. If GIF files are provided to us by a third party and installed on the Site, they might permit the third party provider to recognize cookies that could be on a Visitor’s computer. We will not authorize third party providers to have access to the personal identifying information of Visitors through GIF files on our Site. GIF files permit us to evaluate the effectiveness of online marketing and the advertisements that might appear on the Site without compromising any personal identifying information of our Visitors.
9. Why Do We Use Cookies and GIFs?
Cookies, log files, GIFs and location information allow the site to offer visitors a better experience by recalling information entered on a previous visit to avoid having to reenter the information on each subsequent visit. They also allow us to offer personalized content and services and assist users in the efficient accessing of site information.
10. Use of Third Parties to Operate the Site
Trusted third parties might, from time to time, be used by us in the operations of the Site or to assist us in providing the services and products offered to Site Visitors. Some of these trusted third parties might, in the course of their work for us, have limited access to Visitor-provided information. Third party providers must agree to keep such information confidential and not use it for any purpose other than assisting us in our operation of the Site.
11. Confidentiality Related to Payments or Downloads
Our Site offers Visitors the opportunity to purchase products or services and to download purchased documents for their personal use. Third-party payment services used by Visitors for Site purchases are not within our direct control or supervision. We do not review or control policies or practices of such third-party payment services, so we cannot accept responsibility or liability for the privacy practices or policies of payment services used by Visitors. Visitors are encouraged to review the privacy policies and practices and the terms of use of payment services before giving them any personal identifying information to complete a transaction in connection with our Site.
12. Site Administration and Analysis
In order to provide the best Site experience possible for our Visitors, we may collect user data from web server logs. These and other tracking technologies permit us to compile site traffic and Visitor interaction data in order to improve existing Site features and to create new content, products and services in the future.
Web server logs allow us to track information based upon use of the Site. The information collected by us or trusted third parties we use to assist us does not track personal identifying information. Information we track through web server logs includes the internet protocol addresses of visitors, their internet connection speed, the type of browser used, the type of computer used, links clicked on within the Site, the country in which the accessing computer is located, the number of times a particular person visits the site, the language used to visit the site, the date and time of each visit, pages viewed on the site, destination after leaving the site, and the website or webpage from which a visitor linked to our site.
13. What We Do to Keep Your Information Safe
We use safeguards widely accepted as commercially reasonable to protect the information we collect on the Site from Visitors. Steps we take, such as asking you to create a unique username and password, are meant to help us to verify the identity of those requesting access to the Site and to your individual account. Maintaining the secrecy of your account access information is your responsibility. One of the ways you can do this is by not giving your account access information to others to use. Sharing your access information is solely within your control, and we cannot ensure the security of any personal identification information that you disclose to others. Although we value the importance of the security of the information you give through our Site and use appropriate procedures to safeguard it, we cannot guarantee against someone illegally hacking into our Site and obtaining confidential information.
If we experience a breach of security at our Site that compromises personal identifying information we have stored about you, we will take such reasonable measures to investigate the breach and notify visitors to our site whose information might have been compromised. We will take all steps within our control to comply with state and federal laws and regulations that might be applicable in the event of a breach of security.
14. Compliance with Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act
Access to our Site is restricted to those individuals who are at least 18 years of age or older. We do not collect personal identification information from anyone visiting our site that is younger than 18 years of age. We comply fully with the requirements of the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act. Our site does not knowingly solicit anyone under 18 years of age to use it or to submit personal identification information. If you believe that we might have acquired information about a person who is younger than 18 years of age, please contact us immediately by using the contact information contained elsewhere in this privacy statement.
15. What You Can Do to Protect Your Information
We have established protocols within the Site to allow you to control your account information, contact information and email preferences. We offer you opportunities to opt out of receiving promotional communications from us or to change the email address to which such communications will be sent.
Factual errors pertaining to personal identifying information that we collect online and offline can be corrected on the Site when you access your account, but it can also be corrected by telephone by calling us at (855) 219-8800 or faxing a request to us at (508) 429-3034. Please note, that to protect your privacy and security when requesting a correction in your personal identifying information, we will take steps to verify your identity prior to granting you access to your account or prior to facilitating corrections.
16. Change of Ownership or Operation
Vertex Management Group LLC is the operator of the Site. In the event of a sale, merger, acquisition, dissolution, reorganization or other alteration in the ownership of the Site operator, the names and email addresses, and other user information of registered site visitors might be transferred as part of the transaction in order to maintain continuity of our high level of service to our customers.
17. Terms of Use
Our terms of use govern the use, disclaimers and liability limitations associated with our Site. The terms of use should be accessed at our Site and reviewed along with this privacy policy.
18. Changes to Our Privacy Policy
We reserve the right to make changes or add updates to this privacy policy without prior notification. Changes or updates will be accompanied by a new date at the end of this privacy policy indicating that it is the most recent statement.
19. Contact Information
Any questions or concerns regarding our privacy policy or how we implement it can be directed to us at the following address, email address and telephone number:
Newton, Massachusetts 02466
help@myultratrust.com
(855) 219-8800
20. Version of Privacy Policy
This privacy policy represents the latest revision in use as of February 17, 2014.
The MyUltraTrust Satisfaction Guarantee
Customer satisfaction is the goal of the services and support provided by MyUltraTrust. Building upon the advice and guidance we received from expert lawyers, business leaders, and CPAs when our company was founded in 1983, we continue to improve our services by leveraging the input from our clients over the past 30+ years to offer you the most powerful trust agreement and outstanding services in the United States. Because our clients want a company that stands behind its products and services, MyUltraTrust guarantees customer satisfaction by resolving a client’s concerns or by offering a refund or credit toward future purchases.
What You Must Do
Clients who are not satisfied with documents or services furnished by MyUltraTrust should call us toll-free at (855) 219-8800 during normal business hours. As long as we receive your request within 30 days from the date of your purchase, we will act upon it within five (5) business days from the date we receive the return of the documents and materials with which you are dissatisfied.
Fees and Charges We Cannot Refund or Credit
Fees or other charges paid to government entities cannot be refunded or credited back to you. We also cannot refund or credit payments you made directly to third parties who might have had a role in the processing of your order. Third-party payments for which we cannot offer a refund or credit include payments you might have made to attorneys, accountants or others for professional services to review your documents.
What We Will Do
If we cannot resolve the issue to your satisfaction, we will give you credit for the price you paid for the item within five (5) business days of our receipt of the returned item. The purchase price of the returned product will be credited to your MyUltraTrust account and may be used to purchase other products or services. Please note that we cannot give you credit for fees paid to third parties, such as government entities, attorneys, accountants or others, who participated in the processing of your order.
Using Credit for Future Purchases
You may use the credit we give you on the returned or exchanged product within 30 days from the date of purchase of the original product. If you do not use the credit within that period of time, or if the cost of the new product or service is less than cost of the the original product, the amount of the credit will be refunded to you in the same manner as your original form of payment. Credit card purchases will be credited back to the card used to make the purchase, and payments made by check will refunded by a check from MyUltraTrust that will be mailed to the billing address we have on file for you.
What MyUltraTrust Cannot Do
MyUltraTrust stands behind its products, but we cannot guarantee specific results or outcomes, nor can we be responsible for delays in processing caused by third parties over whom we have no control. The MyUltraTrust guarantee of satisfaction does not apply to services or products provided by third parties.
We at MyUltraTrust understand that a client’s needs and wishes might change, or there might be changes to a client’s personal or financial circumstances. Because we have invested significant time and effort to making certain you are getting the best money can buy for a fraction of the cost, this MyUltraTrust guarantee only covers satisfaction issues caused by MyUltraTrust - not changes for which we cannot be held responsible for such as your situation or your state of mind.
Updated Feb 10, 2014
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